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Olivier Roland's avatar

Very interesting article. I've just started a Substack on the disruption of nation-states by the Internet, and I also talk about how states will react by trying to control their population.

However, I have a slightly different point of view: I think that, in the long term, and despite a few victories here and there, the Internet, nomadism and globalization will strongly disrupt nation-states, and diminish their power.

(I say it's a different point of view because the impression I got from your article is that you're rather pessimistic about the power that nation-states will have over individuals in the long term... but maybe I'm wrong !).

You can see here an article in which I analyze whether it would be feasible, for example, for states other than the USA to set up taxation on nationality, which would be a strong means of control for them: https://disruptives-horizons.com/p/can-other-countries-introduce-taxation

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BowTiedMara's avatar

Thank you Olivier! I am pessimistic for orderly “1st World” societies in the West, but very bullish on countries that will not be able to enforce any of this.

This is why I am not planning on moving back to Europe, and stay here in Argentina. The sense of freedom in most countries in the Southern Cone is something that was completely missing for me in Europe, where every inch of society is hyper controlled.

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Ivan Sar's avatar

Se que dijiste que no querías sonar muy doomer pero:

La concha de mi hermana.

Yo quedé bastante cagado con lo que pasó en ¿Canadá? con las huelgas de camioneros había sido? Bueno, se ve que no quedé tan cagado porque no recuerdo con exactitud, pero me parece vos habías mencionado sobre cómo estaban los bancos negándole acceso a los fondos a gente que le compraba comida e insumos a huelguistas.

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BowTiedMara's avatar

Sí, eso fue el momento que se me prendió una lucecita para entender de qué son capaces los estados cuando realmente quieren controlar a la población y el peligro de tener todo digitalizado a tu nombre. Entre otras cosas es una de las razones porque decidí postear todo de forma anónima online también. Nunca se sabe cuándo lo pueden usar en tu contra.

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Bowtied Shrike's avatar

EU also pioneered Plan S(hame) in an attempt for the state to take over and control academic publishing in the name of "Open Access".

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